Big Ruins - Revision history

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‎re-territorialisation: ruins in the museum

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	* if i get one more pun about "OH I RUINED IT HOW APPROPRIATE"….		* if i get one more pun about "OH I RUINED IT HOW APPROPRIATE"….
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		+	== See Also ==
		+	* http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/22/future-architecture_n_5358586.html

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 * AFTER LONDON jefferies or wild england - whether the walls ahd been of bricks or stone or other material he could not tell, they were now like salt. - ruin become mere matter.
 * dust the impossibility of things going away. no going away. no real end. too diffuse. circulatory.
 * ruin theorists
 * if i get one more pun about "OH I RUINED IT HOW APPROPRIATE"….

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	* http://www.peenemuende.de/en		* http://www.peenemuende.de/en
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		+	== Carl Lavery & Lee Hassall: return to battleship island; towards ecology of ruins ==
		+	* performance, live voiceover of a film.
		+	* lavery's derrida quif
		+	* shopping list items
		+	* flaneur of concrete with notebook and pen
		+	* shit - corporeality
		+	* strange reference they made about a strange reference to hegel
		+	* it seems de rigeur for the ruin theorist to describe ruin as elusive
		+	* what is less discussed is that all ruins look the same, always here but elsewhere but not quite
		+	* the head of louis xiii as fragment, revolution
		+	* did we actually go to hashima or is this just found footage. who knows. the only real thing about the film we made here rid the silence between the words we speak
		+	* awkward silence
		+	* ruin the ruin
		+	* let it be, let it wander
		+	* we start w the premise that there is nothing such as ruins, only specificities, which are promiscuous and contradictory. this be future of ruin.
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		+	=== q&a ===
		+	* tension - one is drawn to the picturesque in one's RUINLUST. the other wants to make a dirge.
		+	* problem of conceptualizing past / future ruins
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		+	== Camilla Mork Rostvik - Sleeping Dragons: An Exploration of ruins of CERN ==
		+	(art history / history of science)
		+	* CERN built on old roman grounds
		+	* gallo roman ruins discovered at cms dig site, meyrin, switzeland
		+	* CERN scientist uses roman column as pc support in CERN main library
		+	* CERN is a 21 km circle underground
		+	* the idea of CERN already gives magic to the region. the higgs boson.
		+	* switzerland was chosen cos it was 'neutral". to be pure, international, neutral, not-for-profit
		+	* paradox about CERN: so isolated like dead organisms. but actually ironically what man finds isolated, nature likes to live in. pic of sheep hiding under bridge near main entrance to LHC.
		+	* relationship between nature and ruin. CERN: a science org which discovers nature? is science nothing more than nature which we call "discovered"? gravity exists, how can we discover what is always there?
		+	* Last night i went to manderley - daphne du maurier's rebecca. a grand house become ruin but pictured as fairytale.
		+	* science hero worship. Brian Cox. PR for stargazing. Is it blue sky thinking or commercial venture? popular science makes money.
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		+	* awe inspiring physics - wow, worried, fearful to ask in case you look stupid, what cern calls layman
		+	* Cern cannot be seen as whole as it is so big and secret and locked
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		+	* cern - may be at forefront of science on behalf of us all, but is it? only 16% of cern are female. does not represent us! as an ideological thing… how can it speak for us or do it in our interests? it is mysterious and has not done due diligence to let us all know what it is.
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		+	* i was struck by the signs of human presence in the anonymity and impenetrability of the place. wandering about the warren-like spaces that house the sophisticated machines used for the experiment……. it always seemed empty as if everyone had mysteriously vanished (tim)
		+	* discoverer of nature, will be engulfed by nature eventually.
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		+	=== a&a ===
		+	* is tardis a ruin? (lady is not british, never watched dr who...)
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		+	== William Viney - futures in ruin ==
		+	* objects of ruin of the future - upsetting temporal relations (has not yet come to past)
		+	* projecting ruins into future may mean the end of something. political implications. structures end?
		+	* projection of ruinous future also means lingering time. continuousities of human use.
		+	* "WASTE TIME" (subject of his book)
		+	* still from planet of the apes still with statue of liberty - response for some is: "OMG I AM BACK IM HOME" i recognize it
		+	* often the future ruin is eliding when what time did structures end, what caused its quasi termination? it is neatly sidestepped by not having to show the end, only the ruin.
		+	* hubert robert's design for the grand gallery in ruins. he painted both the design and ruin but didn't explain why paint a ruin.
		+	* why do we want to create future ruins? well some are apocalyptic ruins are used as warning systems. didactic future ruins, the foremost puzzle for the hg wells.
		+	* hgwells time machine and other stories page 32 - i was watching for every impression that could possibly help to explain the condition of ruinous splendor in which i found the world. he walks thru v&a and its all empty and covered in rust and lignite….
		+	* ruin gives terminal sense of regression
		+	* "the absurd impression that men of the future would certainly be infinitely ahead of ourselves in all their appliances." hg wells time machine
		+	* "rotting nineteenth century houses… sordid colonies of wooden dwellings" -geroge orwell, 1984 a world in which post war poverty continued instead of disappearing (another kind of ruin)
		+	* albert speer inside the third reich "it was hard to imagine that rusting heaps of rubble could communicate these heroic inspirations which hitler admired i nthe monuments of the past" - "after generations of neglect, overgrown… crumbling… but the outline still clearly recognizable" (THE CLUE, VISIBILITY, RECOGNITION IS IMPORTANT)
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		+	* how to make ruinous ends meet? but very hard to reduce it, to find it, material engagement. detail is needed still.
		+	* the new zealander - a trope so overused…. exhausted and stale. RUINS. SKETCHING the ruins of st paula.
		+	* AFTER LONDON jefferies or wild england - whether the walls ahd been of bricks or stone or other material he could not tell, they were now like salt. - ruin become mere matter.
		+	* dust the impossibility of things going away. no going away. no real end. too diffuse. circulatory.
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		+	* ruin theorists
		+	* if i get one more pun about "OH I RUINED IT HOW APPROPRIATE"….

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 * ends of parabola. rocket leads to impact
 * final room of ruin, asking you to see the rubble installation, audience asked to reflect on the consequences of german rocket. yeah right. the room was called einschlag / IMPACT!
 * http://www.peenemuende.de/en

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	* text on wall - immanuel kant - enlightening encoding!		* text on wall - immanuel kant - enlightening encoding!
		+	* like a numbered thesis - eg: 4.1.3 - academic?
		+	* ends of parabola. rocket leads to impact
		+	* final room of ruin, asking you to see the rubble installation, audience asked to reflect on the consequences of german rocket. yeah right. the room was called einschlag / IMPACT!
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		+	* http://www.peenemuende.de/en

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 * re-territorialisation: gdr cold war reuse of architecture esp power station. navy and airforce instalalations. and post 1990 they set up a historial technical museum, monument landscape, conservation management plans.
 * big in scale, big in being symbolic.
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 * big ruin as in scale. infrastructure for 20000 workers, s-bahn network, power station, housing barracks work camp. (different types of housing for different classes)
 * de-territorialisation: raf bombing raid in 1943 and subsequent demolition evacuation; soviet dismantling 1945, prohibited military zone 1949-89
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 == Matthew Philpotts - rocket-fuelled ruin: re-territorialising the traces of german dictatorship ==
-=== ruins of modernity / ruins of dictatorship ===
+=== ruins of modernity ===
 === peenemunde as big ruin ===
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	* when you change the window space it is quite interesting. blind = change of volume? light?		* when you change the window space it is quite interesting. blind = change of volume? light?

−	== ~~matthew philpotts~~ - rocket-fuelled ruin: re-territorialising the traces of german dictatorship ==	+	== Matthew Philpotts - rocket-fuelled ruin: re-territorialising the traces of german dictatorship ==
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		+	=== ruins of modernity / ruins of dictatorship ===
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		+	=== peenemunde as big ruin ===
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		+	=== re-territorialisation: ruins in the museum ===

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	* the shock of the re-new		* the shock of the re-new
	* death of the social		* death of the social
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		+	=== q&a ===
		+	* why old fascist buidlings which were taboo still exist. do they still exist in being reused? - he said: post war u couldn't not use buildings if they were there to be used. maybe also italians were not totally against mussolini. it might have been workable besides the um bad bits. so taboo also faded over generations. not that anyone is pro-fascist. but no one is like angry and against fascism actively?
		+	* when you change the window space it is quite interesting. blind = change of volume? light?
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		+	== matthew philpotts - rocket-fuelled ruin: re-territorialising the traces of german dictatorship ==